Tuesday, October 11, 2016

Episode # 448 - October 11th, 2016

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52 comments:

Hkevyn29 said...

Lol

ethan2chris said...

Why is Brad angry? It's not uncommon for two devastatos to get to sex on the first date. And it's not as if they were strangers.

What would Brad be waiting for? Does he observe some rule about holding back till the third outing? Does he demand flowers and candy first? Is he afraid Price will think he's cheap?

Matt said...

I like that Brad's old-fashioned. The--ahem--money shot had me ROTFLMAO. Glad I was not drinking when I read it.

BTW, Greg--that's some of your best detail artwork I've seen--the closeups of their faces and the kiss.

Anonymous said...

Maybr Brad "saves" himself during the professional season. . Th hus he's mad at the breaking of a rule/superstition

Iclabon72 said...

Lmao. Amazing.

And there's Richard again. Like a bloodhound when it comes to other people's business.

I don't particularly care for either Brad or Price though, so I hope theyre not getting a lot of panel time.

BUT PLEASE GREG: MORE SEX!

!!!

ShaunNJ said...

Hot strip -I like that the graphic novel has some graphic sex. (It would have been nice not to have Richard's appearance in everyone's lives - I think he's becoming reviled despite the efficacy of his background checks).
Price's boldness could be considered a sexual assault even though Brad responded to it - witness the fact he was angry afterwards and didn't want it to happen. The lesson here is communication is important, plus respecting the partner's wishes. It's not creepy in a Trump way but on t he fence. Will be interesting discussion and hope it doesn't derail the budding relationship.

Rip said...

Price being Price. But I would like of see his redemption.

Rip said...

And (why not) a future to him and Brad.

Ian Pittsburgh said...

He's angry because he indicated "no", and Price pushed forward anyhow. That's sexual assault, and Price is going to pay for it.

B James Harder said...

I've always liked the tone of Kyle's B&B. Mostly wholesome with a nod and a wink. Arse cheeks and bulges. Implied sex. So, the money shot is as explicit as I hope this comic ever gets. I've a perfectly good imagination so Greg doesn't "have to draw me a picture," so to speak. Don't get me wrong. It was funny and made me laugh. A great comedic springboard to launch into the dramatic surprise of Brad's angery reaction.

I'm interested to see what happens with Price. As is all too evident in the news cycle, not enough people understand that sexual contact without consent is at least sexual assault if not rape.

We've seen Price on the road to redemption before. And I don't think there was any mal intent on this act. It could even have been a badly misguided attempt to express gratitude for Brad's willingness to look past his previous behaviour.

Kyle's B&B is one of the few places where I can tolerate redemptive stories that wrap everything up in a nice, tidy bow. Please, Greg, give brad and Price a chance! ��

Anonymous said...

....In the words of the immortal George Takei.....OOOHHHHH MYYYYY!

...I think this is the most EXPLICIT sex scene the B&B has ever had! normally we get leadup and 'afterglow' scenes, & pillow talk but NEVER semen! :O

I believe this is probably a story setup to Brad being mad at Price for awhile, because he was 'saving' himself for someone he TRULY loves, which is a crock to me, seeing that he lives with sexually active people like Lance & Eduadro...

Also, Brad's 'whatdidyoujustdo?!' response after COULD implicate that indeed, as other posters mentioned, that he was sexually assaulted...but I ain't buyin' that either, seeing that he seemed to want to take it 'slow'and be friends....Boy, it's been close to 3 YEARS!

I still like this pairing, because as another poster mentioned the "Archie & Reggie" demographic....THAT'S why it should be interesting...the two figuring each other out, the fights, the HOT sex, the jealousy & insecurities (Price IS a piece of work), and of course, the DRAhhhma..for US, reading the strip!

Brad is too puppy-puppy...by now, he NEEDS a wake-up call to the navigations of Gay Relationships; I was bothered for awhile with his 'Hot Untouchable Closeted Mascot' thing, with ALL these Openly GAY, sexually active Men around him. THIS finally makes him interesting on an emotional level again...even moreso, is Jeff Olsen show up for a relationship....hint HINT, Greg! ;)

Anywhow, it's fun-fun-fun to read the strip (consistently) again...I'm loving these continuous directions...keep it UP Greg...now, I'm gonna have to cool myself down before I go to work; seeing Price covered in More than 'sweat', reminds me that it's been a-WHILE!! Heehee!

WranglerMan said...

I hope Price didn't ruin it! I like the fact that Brad is old-fashioned and is in "in season"mode. But that was fracking hot and sexy!!!

Anonymous said...

I was curious about the comments here and I must say: I was thoroughly shocked. Some say "it wasn't mal intent" some say Brad was too "puppy puppy", Some say "that money shot was fracking hot!"this is indicating that Brad wanted it and deserved what he got so he should just "be glad"....Only ShaunNJ and Ian Pittsburgh hit the nail on the head: Brad was sexually assaulted and as such it is a crime. No means no. Ambivalence is taken as a no. Price decided to press ahead and do it anyway. That's rape...Remember the Lady Gaga song: "Til It Happens To You."...To be fair: I hate both characters with such a passion that I wish that Greg would just write them both out but Brad was violated. The fact that Brad was angry afterwards is a clear indication as to the intent was not a mutual one. As previously stated, I felt that Brad and Price would only be friends (if that) because Price is too much like a predator and I hear so many comments such as: "he looks good in underwear" and things of that nature.

The numerous people, myself included who have gone through this type of assault will attest the years of mental angst which could have ramifications in the present and future.

I only hope that Greg doesn't sugar coat it (which will likely happen) and have there be REAL consequences. But I want you all to remember your comments the next time someone gay is: assaulted, discriminated against or things of that nature, just remember: "that money shot was fracking hot..."

Jack

Unknown said...

Guess Price didn't see that cumming ;) but what a waste, if your gonna do the work get the reward.

so now Price has to get into the house, covered in cum and trying NOT to get caught.

Bread never actually said NO, he said he thought it was too soon but never said NO or told Price to stop

as for Richard, let's hope he meets someone (or a few), gets some (and yeah, let us see it) and then cares less about everyone else's sex lives ;) but it is nice that he cares about everyone, even if it is in a nosy way LOL

Anonymous said...

I might be wrong... Am I wrong? Isn't Brad HIV+? I'm not 100% sure...

whiskers65 said...

What a joke if you really didn't want somebody to do it it's really easy just to push them away instead he just sat back and took it and then got mad. Time to move on from this stupid storyline

whiskers65 said...

What a joke if you really didn't want somebody to do it it's really easy just to push them away instead he just sat back and took it and then got mad. Time to move on from this stupid storyline

Luca said...

I'm maybe old-fashioned but I don't see the sexual assault here. Brad weakly protested but he didn't oppose Price's fellatio even if he had the means, the time and the possibility to do it.
There is no force as he could have broken free easily and in any moment (and I don't think he was psychologically subdued by Price's "powerful personality"). He didn't. He is not a victim of anything. Therefore, no sexual assault.

Anonymous said...

See this is the part that I find odd. Some people here including myself think that it's sexual assault and some don't. Everyone is entitled to his or her own opinion. I'm merely basing what I feel based upon what Greg drew and Brad's reaction. Sexual assault includes any sexual contact that is unwarranted. This could be either before or after sex. There is a difference between "regret sex" and unwarranted sexual behavior. Due to Brad's later reaction, he feels violated which warrants inappropriate sexual contact which leads to sexual assault.

Price is a seducer and to be honest with you I don't really feel any sympathy towards Brad as a person because he was warned about Price LONG beforehand and he ignored it. That being said: that still does not give Price the right to "push" the envelope when someone is having ambivalent feelings....The whole notion of: "he could've pushed him off" leads to the very idea of Brad DESERVES what he gets. It's a classic case of blaming the victim who in this case is Brad. Also, it leads to individuals not wanting to report rape or sexual assault due to people and individuals not believing them and placing blame on them. And within the gay community, this happens much more frequently than anyone cares to admit.....

Jack

Mark said...

Can we please leave sexual hysteria to the breeders?

Brad was perfectly capable of restraining Price, had he not wanted Price to do what he did. He chose not to. The fact that he had mixed feelings about what happened does not make what happened "sexual assault". Brad is hardly the first person to regret having sex immediately after having it. That doesn't make Price a criminal.

Seems all the queens clutching their pearls missed the part where Brad says, "Yes, yes!" and IMAGINED the part where he said, "No, no!"

Anonymous said...

....hear, HEAR, Mark! : )

Iclabon72 said...

Agreed, Mark.

I think they both handled it dumbly, but it was funny and definitely not assault. Anyone that classes that as rape or even near the line, is too sensitive for this world. How are not traumatized by everything?

ethan2chris said...

Mark is right.

Had Brad wanted to stop Price, he would have told him to stop right at the very beginning, when Brad started to unzip his fly. He would have said, "Cut it out, Price," or something of the like, straight out in conclusive tones. And if Price hadn't stopped, Brad would have shoved him away, and that would have been the end of it.

Brad's a big boy. No one imposes anything on him against his will.

It's unfortunate to see the rape hysteria that has so infected straight culture trying to gain a foothold here.

JLeeJr said...

No surprises here especially when the boys at that B&B are constantly showing off their assets via skimpy tight clothing (nothing wrong with that). They're not monks.

What I find interesting here is that Brad is a contradiction. He's old fashioned, yet he's the one who walks around either naked or nearly naked the most in the comic strip.

I don't think this is so much as to "rape" culture here. I think Brad wants that type of attention, but feels that his principles are in conflict with his carnal desires.

Anonymous said...

"Leave the sexual hysteria to the breeders?" Wow...And people say that gay people can't be bigoted! Well: why don't we leave deviant behavior to the "pillow biters?"...

You say that Brad was perfectly capable of restraining Price and while physically that may be true but on the other hand, Price should have just stopped instead of pushing forward. "No" does not mean "yes". It's like I said before, I feel zero sympathy for Brad with regards to anything in general but his perception is what would matter. He clearly was bothered immediately afterwards. Whenever there is rape or sexual assault, it starts with perception first. "Brad's a big boy?" Well tell that to the thousands of guys who not only are assaulted and raped but are undermined as well as coerced into situations that they did not want entirely. The moment you hear the words: "I don't think that we should be doing this..." is a direct indicator that it could possibly be seen as no consent. For the record: just because someone ejaculates does not mean that is was warranted or welcomed. Lastly, if Price really "liked" Brad, why didn't he control his own urges as they say?

You all should read the definition of sexual assault and forcible rape. Those are two entirely different things as is inappropriate behavior. Either way, all three of those scenarios are the result in something that is unwelcome despite how the human body reacts and it clearly shows the level of sexual deviancy within the gay community. No or indication of it means No. But Price will get a free pass because: (1) he's a rich white guy and (2) he looks good in speedos. Which seems to be the ONLY requirements for the gay community. The fact that he's a jerk, sociopath and liar, and now sexual harasser is totally thrown out of the window. Add to the fact that trust is broken between Brad/Price and you have a recipe for disaster.

What I don't understand is why so many people here are upset when someone has a difference of opinion. But hey, that's gay people for you and I can promise you the like all of the stories here, this one will be sugar coated as well.....

Anonymous said...

"But hey, that's gay people for you..."

Oh whatever, anon. You can get off your purity high horse now and try to interact with us "little people" if you can handle your disdain.

As for your LENGTHY and condescending litany, I will say I printed out and showed this to 3 friends of mine. 2 are city police officers (in a city of 2 million+) and the other is a deputy with the county Sheriff's Department. 1 of the police officers was female and the other officer and deputy were male. I asked the same question of each one..."under the laws of this state or city ordinance, would you call this situation a sexual assault?" Each gave the same answer, which was "No". I also asked them what they would do if a person in Brad's shoes had filed a sexual assault complaint. Again, each one of them said their department's would investigate, but the complainant would be told it didn't rise to the level of a sexual assault, based on the level of non-consent.

While state laws and city ordinances are different across the states in the US, as well as across the world, I don't claim to have the definitive answer. But it definitely should give you, who keeps screaming that this is "rape" and "sexual assault", a little pause in your uppity "you all should read the definition of sexual assault and forcible rape". You are making a generalization that isn't true legally in my state or community.

So maybe that will help you "understand why so many people here are upset when someone has a difference of opinion". You are not spouting an "opinion"...you have stated that there is a single definition of "sexual assault and forcible rape"...and YOU are not the authority on that definition. And it being delivered in your morally superior manner doesn't motivate people to try and understand your points period.

Feel free to lecture everyone AGAIN...but this is one reader who is done with you.

Anonymous said...

I see that I have struck a nerve. Good. You all describe straight people as "breeders" but can't take it when someone calls you out and yes, I did say: that's gay people for you. Because they are good at playing the victim but not so good at being held accountable for his or her own actions...

You mention police officers. For one, they aren't exactly building the trust of individuals in this day and age are they? I am in the military and let me tell you this: if there is even the SLIGHTEST amount of regret or ambivalence then the general consensus is to not force or attempt to coerce someone into doing something the he or she would not want to do or is unsure of. But you stated that the department would INVESTIGATE which indicates that there could possibly be wrongdoing depending on IF the harasser has a record of repeated behavior. But the police are OBLIGATED to at least investigate whether they agree or not. Right?

I encouraged you to look up "forcible rape" "inappropriate behavior" and lastly "sexual assault" Those are three very different terms and it's not my fault if you feel as if you can't keep up...I really don't care if you are "done" especially given the fact that you don't even identify yourself to any capacity. I am allowed to have a difference of opinion and while you may scare other individuals, I am not so easily scared off. Your opinion is yours and mine is mine. Period. But I will not agree with you simply because you think that someone "looks good in speedos..." And yes: that's gay people for you...

Jack

Anonymous said...

....Dear God, someone get Jack a Q-tip.....

Anonymous said...

Dear God,someone get anonymous a clue

Jack

Anonymous said...

...ain't no clue here....

..It's a topical comic strip that's to be lighthearted and enjoyable for GAY MEN; I GET what the situation and the storyline was / is meant to be...I've been in it myself.

But, Jackie, you just gettin' TOO heavy...and it's CLEAR you have a prahhhhblem with this strip, and what it stands for. can it JUST be for enjoyment?

I respect your opinion and what it means to you; I love to read the comments section because I WANT to hear others opinions on the characters, drawing technique,etc. and I KNEW there would be some heated talk about it....but to an EXTENT.

It's supposed to be a 'light' discussion,& (for awhile) your negative Nancy tones bring the discussion forum down.

We ALL can read it...and take it for what IS....but, that's on YOU, pikachuu...you want some pancakes off the griddle?!

Sean said...

Clearly this is NOT any form of sexual assault, because Brad is shown saying "yes" FOUR TIMES during this encounter. All right, "yes" two times, and "yeah" two times. But that's 4 cases of him affirming Price's actions. And more importantly, he NEVER says "no". This is obviously a case of him having regrets after the sex has occurred. But that doesn't make Price guilty of anything besides being tacky.

Anonymous said...

It could be considered as a form of sexual assault. By LAW, there is a such thing as: sexual coercion which states that individuals can be in euphoric states and still be violated. I'd tell you all to look it up but it would be a moot point as we know that most gay men come off as playing the role of victims...I do have a problem with this strip and it's that he (Greg) sugarcoats things a little too much for my tastes. There is no such thing as a drama free relationship which Kyle has (another character to whom I can't stand) But again, that is MY opinion of which I am allowed to have....By the way, if this was meant to be so "lighthearted" then there would be no mention of subjects such as interracial dating, young hustlers, gay racism (with most gay white men being racist and also which NOONE here would dare to comment on) and a whole host of other thought provoking topics....Besides, I know law due to the fact that my sister was training to be a lawyer and also through military law as well and there is a lot of things to which we take for granted and against the law that we do...Back to the point: sexual assault is a matter of perception by the "victim" (Brad) as opposed to antagonist (Price). If you don't like it, don't get mad at me because I didn't make or write the law....But...ambivalence of any sort and flat out saying "no" is considered off limits....I have CLEARLY stated that I can't stand Brad because he's nothing but an in the closet white boy. Nothing more. But someone here mentioned that Brad might be HIV+ and also, someone also mentioned as to why Brad and others wear nothing but jockstraps and such in order to flesh out the character but I wish this was the case because as it stands right now, his character is stupid and dimwitted....But....No means no.....

Lastly, let's not pretend that you don't like my input because it is far more interesting than 95% of the people responding and it actually makes you think of something more than just some stupid jock in speedos.

Relax boys, Greg will sweep this under the rug or "make it go away" and you'll all be back to see Price blowing Brad and other men in no time and your universe will go back to being normal

Jack

Anonymous said...

girl bye

Anonymous said...

Sissy bye

Jack

Ardenwolfe said...

Keep it civil or keep it to yourself, please.

Anonymous said...

Ardenwolfe: I was doing just that. I DARED to have a difference of opinion because these cretins are not educated enough to do research. I don't attack unless I am attacked. You should tell that to him. He called straight people "breeders" and called me "girl" and I responded in kind....

Jack

Ardenwolfe said...

Calling someone a 'sissy' is not keeping it civil. In case you missed it, those words he used are gay slang. What you called him was straight-up derogatory.

Keep in mind, you're reading a gay comic strip with some salacious characters. And this one has generated the most comments I've ever seen for the strip.

You invited commentary when you posted your experience. Others posted theirs. That's not an attack. That's posters voicing an opposing opinion.

Again, please keep it civil.

Thank you.

Barak Torvan said...

You know, I do not see this as a sexual crime of any legal sort, and if Brad was truly the old fashioned type of guy, he would have reacted differently the minute Price tried to undo his zipper. Lets not forget Brad did send out a "Why don't you come up and see me sometime." saying "...Maybe we don't gotta' go inside."

While Brad's displays of nudity could be misconstrued as sexual displays, it really shows he is comfortable as a nudist. But way too often, nudity and sex are confused and misunderstood.

Price could also be under the impression that sex on the first date is more or less required--something I have experienced much to my dismay from the men I have dated. But Brad not saying "NO" and not enforcing a "NO" indicates he was a willing participant.

Police will always investigate a charge against someone, but it does not mean any charges would be brought up. Nor does it mean a DA will take the case up.

Bud Morries said...

Ardenwolfe: I did keep it civil and I don't really care if it's "gay slang." I took offense to it and I responded in kind. If your friend can not discuss things rationally then perhaps he should read a book first.

I did invite the commentary but it's like I said before: it's not my fault if he can't keep up

Jack

Bud Morries said...

Now this response made a lot of sense and it was much more intelligible than the other responses.... However just because someone dresses a certain way doesn't mean that they invite the invitation to be violated... And it doesn't matter if someone else is under the impression that there is sex on the first date. Brad expressed ambivalence and as such it could be construed as sexual coercion. In a court of law that would require at the very least an investigation dependent on if the perpetrator has a history of doing such things. No look that up.

Jack

Ardenwolfe said...

You, Sir, are incredibly rude. He is not my friend. And telling him to read a book first is again not keeping it civil. And if I remember correctly? We've seen your antics before.

Thank you for posting with your google account. I will now add you to block so I don't have to see your continued, snotty commentary.

Have a nice day.

Bud Morries said...

Aredenwolfe: I am not rude and just because you say that doesn't make it true. I did tell him to go read a book because that's how I felt. I know differences between consent and non consent and all of the gray areas in between. I am glad that you will block me. Really and I think that Greg thought that by me showing my face that it would intimidate or scare me and it doesn't....I could careless if you or others see me as "snotty" but I will not stop expressing my opinion on a public forum.

Jack

haranoe synechism said...

But was that rape or not?

Carles.-

Bud Morries said...

I'd answer that but i don't want to appear to be "rude"

Jack

234273de-48ba-11e4-9a43-4b9e3e1e4998 said...

In rereading the strip, it seems clear Brad is ambivalent and wanting to wait. Price presses him to continue, Brad never explicitly says no, in fact he says yes four times (albeit in the throes of ecstasy). He definitely came, though that is an automatic response that would happen even to someone not willing.
Price seems not like a rapist, just living in a different reality. Even when he means well (buying Brad expensive clothing to thank him for kindness) he overreaches. I think he overreached here - assuming Brad would automatically be on the same page as two single guys on a date. Brad could have been clearer, and definitely could have physically stopped the encounter. Price should have been more clued into Brad's signals - no doubt Brad is interested even if he wanted to wait. Price was horny and didn't want to wait - and did not (that's the blurred sexual assault line). I think people think sexual assault requires physical injury, perhaps not understanding injury to the psyche or simply the unwanted touching (being grabbed by the pussy) is wrong. Both could have handled this better - so I won't say Price was fully a rapist, nor say Brad was fully a victim.

Douglas Knapp said...

I always knew they'd get together and you drew them great

Bud Morries said...

Which is pretty much basically what I was saying all along. When it comes to the term for that type of encounter it all comes down to a matter of perception. It doesn't matter if individuals are innocent or guilty but it's all in the perception of the alleged victim. That's all that I said it yet and still you have some people on here who are attacking because of that....... Now Brad could have stop the encounter by simply getting out of the car and going into the house but price could have also stopped the encounter by simply controlling himself... The fact that this is happening so soon on a first date tells me that price has done this before. That's the point that I was trying to make.

Jack

Unknown said...

I wish we could have ONE comments page somewhere on the internet free of trolls.

Ardenwolfe said...

Indeed.

Yren Czenoxyga said...

If only there as a moderator that could block Jack. Nothing he says amounts to the mountain he's made out of a mole hill.
Resorting to backhanded comments and insults is nothing new to him.
And he expects us to respect him as a person of color with mental trauma...
He's the definition of a sociopath.

"A sociopath can be defined as a person who has Antisocial Personality Disorder. This disorder is characterized by a disregard for the feelings of others, a lack of remorse or shame, manipulative behavior, unchecked egocentricity, and the ability to lie in order to achieve one's goals."

Bud Morries said...

Awwwww...I'm hurt because I dared to have a different view on things...and now you want me banned...awwww....get over yourself. We are in "America" and I'll say what I want to say whether you agree with it or not. It's not a backhanded anything and I never said anything about you "respecting" me or my wanting your respect. I could really care less if you think that I'm a "sociopath" I know me and that's all that matters. Last I checked, this was Greg's strip and as such it's open to interpretation so your ill attempts at "reading" is just that...an ill attempt...If Greg wants me banned, he'll let me know but until then....Deal with it

Jack

haranoe synechism said...

Well, regardless... I am still trying to figure out what sort of "thing" Brad seems to become when he is reaching orgasm: a werewolf or a werehog.

Carles.-